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I have to say that writing WikiCU from the ground up has resulted in a much better wiki than [http://www.cuwiki.org/wiki/index.php/Special:Allpages this one about Cornell], where the only active editor seems to have copied a great deal of material from Wikipedia. Take just one totally random example: [[Alexander Hamilton]] versus [http://www.cuwiki.org/wiki/index.php/Ezra_Cornell Ezra Cornell]. [[User:Reaganaut|Reaganaut]] 05:34, 24 April 2007 (EDT)
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== Future of WikiCU ==
  
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OK, guys, help. I graduate in May. How do we take WikiCU forward? I'm perfectly happy to continue owning the site and keeping it on my server as this takes up very little time or money. However, once I graduate I'll have very little time or inclination to moderate the site or make any significant changes. And it's not just me. TTan recently observed that "the current cadre of editors are mainly former CUCom regs and almost all of them are alums," and most other users tend to make worthless contributions (inside jokes, irrelevant, self-promoting, etc). As TTan says, "we need fresh blood on WikiCU." So we either need a marketing strategy or I need to have over the reigns to someone else. Now, the university - which includes the student councils and all student groups - doesn't want anything to do with the site because they're afraid of being liable for any contributions. (Technically, under the DMCA, websites aren't responsible for user-submitted content, but the university is stubborn, hey what's new.) In light of this, I see the follow options:
  
You're totally right, WikiCU is much better that CUWiki. CUWiki is my project - I started it about halfway through the spring term 2007 knowing very, very little about the Mediawiki software. I put in all the Cornell pages from wikipedia thinking that they'd be a good test setup. My intention is that those pages will remain and get updated from wikipedia once in a while, and new Cornell pages will be added that are locally relevant. Check back in the fall! [[User:Opakapaka|Opakapaka]] 10:50, 11 May 2007 (EDT)
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* Continue as before. Hope and pray for new editors. Maybe apply a new skin/theme/style to make it look all swish.
:Psst, Reaganaut, I think he heard what you said about CUWiki... ''Awkward!'' [[User:Nonsensical|Nonsensical]] 17:37, 11 May 2007 (EDT)
 
::Indeed... time to ban off-campus IPs... or not. {{User:Reaganaut/sig}} 22:24, 11 May 2007 (EDT)
 
  
Cool, it's good to know you're working on it. I would suggest creating some new articles from the ground-up. That's what got WikiCU going - about 100 articles of original content. Only then will people come to the site for info and hopefully contribute some of their own knowledge. Good luck! I'll be interested to watch your site grow. {{User:Reaganaut/sig}} 12:11, 11 May 2007 (EDT)
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* Transform the wiki into something more like a portal with a Columbia start page, blog feeds on the front page, weather, Spec headlines, votes, a forum, etc. CUCommmunity reborn. On the downside this would take a lot of effort - I certainly couldn't do it myself. And do people really want another version of what is ultimately a social networking website when they've already got Facebook? This option would become infinitely more attractive if Culpa and/or Cueats and/or BoredAtColumbia.net would join us in building a mega portal.
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* Hand the site over to Spec. They'll still be around in 10 years, and in between hopefully lots of Speccies will work on improving the site. But they're hardly the most innovative bunch (remember all those efforts at making a splog). And because they're run by a big group of people, and new people every year, they might never get round to making any improvements. Also several contributors here really don't trust the Spec.
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* Hand things over to another successful CU website. Bwog? Culpa? Would they even want anything to do with WikiCU? At least they've demonstrated the ability to create a good website, respond to student requests, and keep their respective sites running for several years.
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* Give it to Wikia, the commercial arm of Wikipedia. They'll keep it running. But it'll have a ton of ads and Columbians will lose all control.
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* Give it to some other student. But who? Plus this doesn't solve much because this student will also graduate like me, and isn't necessarily more reliable than me. I think Culpa does something like this - the site is owned by one person, but they designate one or two current students to run it on an everyday basis. Questions: what if this one person completely neglects the site? and how does this person choose current students to run it? surely it's better to hand WikiCU to an on-campus organization that will keep the site running for years to come even if it doesn't do a great job???
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Please let me know your thoughts and ideas. {{User:Reaganaut/sig}} 04:08, 19 November 2007 (EST)

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Future of WikiCU

OK, guys, help. I graduate in May. How do we take WikiCU forward? I'm perfectly happy to continue owning the site and keeping it on my server as this takes up very little time or money. However, once I graduate I'll have very little time or inclination to moderate the site or make any significant changes. And it's not just me. TTan recently observed that "the current cadre of editors are mainly former CUCom regs and almost all of them are alums," and most other users tend to make worthless contributions (inside jokes, irrelevant, self-promoting, etc). As TTan says, "we need fresh blood on WikiCU." So we either need a marketing strategy or I need to have over the reigns to someone else. Now, the university - which includes the student councils and all student groups - doesn't want anything to do with the site because they're afraid of being liable for any contributions. (Technically, under the DMCA, websites aren't responsible for user-submitted content, but the university is stubborn, hey what's new.) In light of this, I see the follow options:

  • Continue as before. Hope and pray for new editors. Maybe apply a new skin/theme/style to make it look all swish.
  • Transform the wiki into something more like a portal with a Columbia start page, blog feeds on the front page, weather, Spec headlines, votes, a forum, etc. CUCommmunity reborn. On the downside this would take a lot of effort - I certainly couldn't do it myself. And do people really want another version of what is ultimately a social networking website when they've already got Facebook? This option would become infinitely more attractive if Culpa and/or Cueats and/or BoredAtColumbia.net would join us in building a mega portal.
  • Hand the site over to Spec. They'll still be around in 10 years, and in between hopefully lots of Speccies will work on improving the site. But they're hardly the most innovative bunch (remember all those efforts at making a splog). And because they're run by a big group of people, and new people every year, they might never get round to making any improvements. Also several contributors here really don't trust the Spec.
  • Hand things over to another successful CU website. Bwog? Culpa? Would they even want anything to do with WikiCU? At least they've demonstrated the ability to create a good website, respond to student requests, and keep their respective sites running for several years.
  • Give it to Wikia, the commercial arm of Wikipedia. They'll keep it running. But it'll have a ton of ads and Columbians will lose all control.
  • Give it to some other student. But who? Plus this doesn't solve much because this student will also graduate like me, and isn't necessarily more reliable than me. I think Culpa does something like this - the site is owned by one person, but they designate one or two current students to run it on an everyday basis. Questions: what if this one person completely neglects the site? and how does this person choose current students to run it? surely it's better to hand WikiCU to an on-campus organization that will keep the site running for years to come even if it doesn't do a great job???

Please let me know your thoughts and ideas.  − Reaganaut  04:08, 19 November 2007 (EST)